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    Posted: 20 Sep 2011 at 9:51pm
Which sort of wind vane works best:
 - HydroVane with it's built in rudder
 - Aries or Monitor with a servo pendulum

Does one type have any advantages over the other?  I would have though that the servo-pendulum would be sensitive to a sloppy sea,  but having never sailed on a boat fitted with one,  I don't know.

Intuitively I see the HydroVane as being the better proposition as it offers a second rudder,  is self-contained,  and has less cockpit clutter.

Anyone with any experience of these systems?
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I fitted a Neptune www.windvane.co.uk servo pendulum vane to Charlotte. The standard model (smallest and cheapest) fits the CO32, It is light 16kg which is a consideration, and is one of the few where the Servo blade is at an angle thus allowing it to bolt direct onto the raked transom of the Contessa. The installation only took a morning. It’s now been on two seasons, and has worked brilliantly on all points of sailing including a dead run. It will not steer very well when the apparent wind drops to around 5 knots.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote George Isted Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2011 at 4:26pm
Hi Glenn,
take a look at the tech papers in the website members area and you will find some usefull info.
 
I have used both Hydrovane and WindPilot.   The Windpilot I have fitted steered Concerto for the best part of 3000 miles this year and is a great bit of kit.   It is all aluminium so is a little lighter than a Monitor, although the Monitor is also a very good unit.
 
There is some video of the windpilot in use (on my boat and others) on you-tube if you go a quick search.
 
Hope this helps.
George Isted
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Wisdish Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2011 at 9:14pm
We too fitted a Windpilot to our Co32. It was pretty straightforward to fit, see the technical paper. What has surprised us is the amount we use it even when day sailing as it only takes a minute to set up, and when there is wind we always use it in preference to the Autopilot. We went for it because of its lighter weight. The servo pendulum works very well in all wind conditions - even light airs under spinnaker!

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I'd not come across the Neptune before.  Good to see the photo of it fitted to your Charlotte.  Which model do you have fitted (e.g. length)?   Also,  which 'extras' did you need?

The price is considerably better than other windvanes,  particularly the Hydrovane.  The elegance of its simplicity does appeal:-)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote moongirl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Nov 2011 at 7:28pm
I am sure that our Class Captain & Web Moderator will post a response. They both used Wind Vanes on the AZAB. I think there is an Article about fitting a system on the Site somewhere.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Alan Dixon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Nov 2011 at 2:30pm
The Neptune model I fitted is the 650. 650mm being the distance from the  water to the center of the mounting bracket. (Low freeboard does have some advantages) I did not get any of the Neptune extras preferring to source them myself. You need 4 roller bearing blocks two mounted on the pushpit and two on the cockpit sides. I did not like the chain and claw arrangement for line to tiller attachment and have used two fairleads and two open clam cleats, a far more elegant solution and it works very well. I am attempting to load photos to Flickr and will post a link when complete
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Alan Dixon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Nov 2011 at 3:11pm
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Post Options Post Options   Quote GlennG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Nov 2011 at 11:51pm
The URL doesn't work:-(  It's complaining about organising some photos which I've not yet uploaded!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rclark1977 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Nov 2011 at 4:21pm
Hi Glenn,

Just in case you are interested there is a Monitor for sale on ebay at the moment. I purchased a Monitor from Ebay for £900 and have been extremely pleased with its performance.  It isn't difficult to use but as with all the systems the sails needs to be reasonably well balanced. During one period on the AZAB it steered under Spinnaker day and night for 48 hours without complaint and only needing the occasional tweak. The only time it struggled was again under spinnaker but reaching in 20-25 knots with the pole right forward so hardly fair!  Scanmar are extremely helpful and if you send them the serial number of your unit they will ensure you get all the right parts. Its a simple system that even I can work on. The fact that it has different ;weight" vanes is an advantage especially in light airs downwind as of course all systems work on apparent wind and you therefore need a sensitive vane. The ebay link is below and I think it has a day to go so hope you see this.  Let me know if I can provide any further information.

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