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    Posted: 18 Feb 2013 at 10:12pm
I was under the impression that a 'storm sail' had to be carried but I was not aware that a No 4 was necessary. By the way, I recollect that Blanco has set a No 4 at least twice.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rclark1977 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2013 at 10:41am
Chaps,

I thought this might help clarify why the rules say a No 4 must be carried.  I have had a chat with John McCann and he thinks it came from advice from Pete Sanders a few years ago due to ISAF rule changes.

When I entered the AZAB (which was raced under IRC and was Category 1 ISAF)  I had to buy a No 4 due to the reasons explained by P Sanders below:

"I agree that you would be better off physically and ‘rating wise’ if you used a roller reefing genoa for the AZAB.  It is a compromise on performance but when you consider the safely angle as well the reefing system option is the most sensible.  However, you cannot take advantage of the single headsail raring because to sail offshore you have to have a ‘heavy weather jib’.  This legal requirement means that your rating advantage is halved but it also means that you have a useful second headsail to use.  The area of a heavy weather jib must be no more than 0.135 x I squared ie: 17.64 sq metres.  The no 3 genoa on a Contessa 32 is over 21 square metres therefore a no 4 genoa is what is required. "

So if you see "Heavy Weather Jib" mentioned in any ISAF rules for a Contessa 32 it means a No4.  Heavy Weather Jibs and Storm Jibs are required from Category 4 up to Category 1 in my reading of the rules but you should of course interpret them yourselves.

2.01.2 Category 1

Races of long distance and well offshore, where yachts must be completely self-sufficient for extended periods of time, capable of withstanding heavy storms and prepared to meet serious emergencies without the expectation of outside assistance.

2.01.3 Category 2

Races of extended duration along or not far removed from shorelines or in large unprotected bays or lakes, where a high degree of self-sufficiency is required of the yachts.

2.01.4 Category 3

Races across open water, most of which is relatively protected or close to shorelines.

2.01.5 Category 4

Short races, close to shore in relatively warm or protected waters normally held in daylight. (mostly us!)


Hope this helps.

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Under the new agreed sail plan as voted for at the last AGM the minimum headsails that must be carried are No1 and No4 of the specified size.  I know that a number of boats in the racing fleet (Blanco, Corafin, Concerto and Cosantes) have raced with a No4 set in the Solent, I’m sure there are others.

 

I need to check the detail under ISAF but my understanding is that we need to carry what is termed a heavy weather sail which must be under a particular size, the standard Co32 No4 fits the bill nicely and is a useful sail to have on-board.  As far as I know it has always been the case that a Co32 had to carry a No4/heavy weather sail to meet the ISAF regs.

 

All the above is a bit off topic as this thread was about the rule change being voted on at this weekend’s AGM.  

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Ha!   Richard just beat me to it by 4 minutes!
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